Time To Ask The Internets

Sorry I've been so MIA of late. Things have been a little crazy around these parts. Our friend, the one we've been trying to help, has been doing some major fucking up of late and it's been spilling into our lives in some big ways. The latest thing? He broke into our house on Saturday while we were out (all he took, however, was the money he'd earned that we were holding for him to pay off someone. Yikes). Yeah, I know. Yeah, we're still trying to help him (within reason; he will no longer be working for our friends, or us, and we'll be keeping our help focused entirely on just keeping him clean and sober). Yeah, we're probably crazy (Sarah thinks so). Yeah, we're installing a security system too.  Why the security system? Because a week from today, we are leeeeeaving! On a jet plane! Don't know when we'll be back again!

Actually, I do know when we'll be back. We are flying from Philadelphia to Phoenix on Monday, February 11th (five hours straight through, baby, ye gods), renting a car and driving up to see our friend Dave! in Tucson for about a week, then driving to Albuquerque to see some family for a bit less than a week, then spending a night at the Grand Canyon (we will of course, in a nod to Charlie's hobby, be staying here although we can't ride the train--too long a ride for Tori, sadly) and then heading back to Tucson for a few more days before flying back to Philly on February 27th. Luckily, we'll be bringing the laptops, and staying in hotels with free wifi, so you should get plenty of posts and updates while we're on the road (with photos, natch). I'm looking forward to it, of course, but there are some things I'm not sure about.

So, my darling readers, time to tap your extensive knowledge! Here are the many, many things I know nothing about and would love to know about your experiences with. I will tell you what we plan to do as well.

1. Flying with a baby. I've read the horror stories, heard about folks being kicked off planes, and we're pretty worried about this one. Our flight out is at 8am, so we'll have to be at the airport at some ungodly hour (probably about 6 or 6:30). Our plan is to let Tori run like crazy in the airport lounge with one of us alternately chasing her, then once we get on the plane to dose her with benadryl (yeah, yeah, whatever, she takes it now and again without a problem and it's a FIVE HOUR FLIGHT). The laptops can show DVDs so that's good too, and she loves that movie Cars (I don't know why, either. It's a pretty talk-y movie for a kid her age. Luckily, I like it too) so we'll bring that and some other stuff for her to watch. We figure we can try to keep her entertained or unconscious through much of the flight. But it's going to be tough. We might have to find a playground in Phoenix to take her to before driving to Tucson, however.

2. Flying with the laptops. Seriously, what do you do? You can't put them through the x-ray machine, right? I don't want to look like an idiot here. Help.

3. Flying with digital cameras. Again, help? Do they go through the machine? Sarah put hers through without a problem.

4. The diaper bag. Is it a carry on bag? Does it eliminate one of your carry on options?

5. Toys. Should we not pack any toys and just plan to hit a dollar store once we're there and buy her some and plan to toss them before we come home? I hate the idea of flying across the country with toys. We don't mind bringing a couple of must-haves (Elmo that she sleeps with, her favorite books) but most of her toys are fun for about two minutes and then she moves on to the next thing. I mean, she'd probably have as much fun with the cups and ice bucket at the hotel as she does with her toys. What do you do?

6. Weather and clothes. For those of you that live in those areas, what are you wearing? What the fuck should we pack? I know Albuquerque has been really cold, but Tucson has been pretty nice compared to Philly.

7. Things that we shouldn't miss that we can do with a very inquisitive and climb-prone 20-month-old. If you know the areas, any suggestions would be appreciated.

8. Things that we shouldn't miss that we will love cause we're grown ups. Things that we can take Tori to and bore her with.

I think that's all, but if you think of anything else, please let me know. Tori did really well on our trip this summer driving to Michigan, but she's a different kid now; we had to hide the piano bench recently because she climbed to the TOP of the piano. No, I mean ON TOP. I think she might be evolutionarily closer to a monkey than either Charlie or I am (ok, that's not true; I was just as much of a climber). She's much harder to entertain and much busier than she used to be, so I know that wrangling her is going to be a lot of work on this trip. So any tips you can suggest will be very, very helpful. Luckily, with a little help from my fabulous sister, we managed to swing a deal on hotel rooms so we're actually in suites that allow us to have her in a different room so we'll all get to sleep at least. Sigh.

So. Advise away!

Comments

[chrystal]

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Mighty Girl posted recently about this. Go check her out!

[chrystal]

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http://mightygirl.com/2008/01/23/12-travel-tips-for-flying-with-a-baby/

http://mightygirl.com/2008/01/24/9-tips-for-quick-airport-security-screening-with-a-baby/

[mpatters]

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This might be too obvious to say, since your from Albuquerque, but the zoo and aquarium are really great. I love the zoo. And I'm pretty sure that the Albu Aquarium is the one with the crazy eel tunnel, which is creepy and crawly and neato.

[Lili]

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1)On laptops (from a frequent business traveler)- yes you can and must send them through the x-ray machine. It doesn't do any harm. Same with digital cameras.
2) Make sure to familiarize yourself with the latest and greatest edicts from the TSA about what can be carried on, in what amounts, and what types of containers.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm
3)Diaper bag is a carry on- you are allowed only 2 carry ons including your purse and your laptop so pack wisely.
4) For clothes- dress in layers- it is warmer than the east coast but it gets cold at night.

[Abbie]

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You can put laptops through the x-ray machine. They just ask you to unzip the bag and leave it open while it goes through so they can make sure you aren't concealing... I dunno. More than your statutory three ounces of liquid, perhaps.

It doesn't hurt the laptop. I've flown half a dozen business flights this year and everything was fine.

[Karen]

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Cecily, don't know about the benadryl, but boob works great for nursing toddlers on airplanes. Plan on wearing appropriate nursing clothes and try to get a window seat for privacy.

As for toys, make sure you have something for the bathtub, and something for the airplane (baby crayons? Crayola magic sketch pad? puzzle?). The rest of it will come along as you need it.

When I traveled with my 22 month old to Italy (and brought her 4 year old sister along! and I was the only parent on the flight! and it was more than 12 hours long! and we had a layover...in Germany!) the idea of "tourism" was limited to playgrounds, restaurants with climbing gyms (it was winter and most playgrounds were muddy) and the thrills of the hotel shoe polishing machine. My girls enjoyed walking around the city we were in and marvelling at the dogs and cats and eating the bread.

So my main advice here is to modify your expectations about what YOU are going to see on this trip, because Tori is going to be the boss. ;-)

[Kermit]

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Is Tori going to be a lap baby or does she have her own seat? When mine have their own seat I keep them strapped in their carseats in the seats and they treat it like a long car ride -- better than a car ride, because neither parent is driving and can thus give endless attention. I tried drugging my oldest with phenergan once when I had to take him somewhere alone. It didn't take.

This is my first winter in ABQ and the natives are talking about how cold it is. Compared to where I grew up and where I lived last year, it's practically tropical!

For toys, I'd do what you mentioned -- bring a couple of must-haves and supplement as needed.

[Kel]

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Sorry to hear about your troubles with your friend. I had a uncle like that.

Question #1- Flying with baby? I know it's been said already but...Nursing!

Question #5- Toys? I always buy a couple of new, flashy toys for traveling. Something they've never seen before that may hold their attention a little longer. I even wrap them to add to the excitement. Glow sticks from the dollar store are great if you are traveling when it will be dark. Dollar store toys are a great idea! And we would never have made it from Philly to Seattle by train and back again by plane with four kids if it weren't for the magna doodle!

Have fun!

[Rachel]

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Long time lurker. As a (very) frequent flier, I can assure you that the majority of the awful stories you hear about kids being harassed on flights are pure media hype. Most flight attendants are nice, most other passengers are understanding (especially since this doesn't sound primarily like a business flight), and most kids love to travel (I did - my mother always had a habit of skipping down the gangway with us and it really set the tone for our flights. She also packed grab bags of dollar toys that we weren't allowed to open until the flight started - it made us very enthusiastic to board). My bet is that the worst part of your flight will be going through the security checkpoint, and for all that it's unpleasant (I had them confiscate the popsicle of a 3 year old I was traveling with ... you should have heard the screams) nobody ever gets turned away there. You can absolutely x-ray your laptop and digital camera. I would recommend packing a few completely empty sippy cups if Tori uses those because they're easy to fill with water or juice once you're through security and minimize spills on the plane (you can now carry any items you purchase after security onto the plane). The only problem with wearing Tori out before the flight is that if she gets really interested in the new place and all the people around her, she may be too overtired to sleep (but I'm sure you know what works best for her). Also, you didn't mention what you plan to do about her ears. Toddlers don't really know how to pop their ears when the plane changes altitude, and it can be really painful (try not yawning - you'll understand). So, either plan to nurse during or immediately after take-off or practice some 'yawning games' or even chewing a small piece of gum. If you google flying with babies there are lots of suggestions out there, and most of them should apply to a toddler who hasn't flown a lot.

[Jessica]

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I've also recently posted on this:

http://www.pregnantthehightechway.com/2008/01/tsa-hates-terro.html

We've traveled several times with one or two kids under 3 years old, and as many as three laptops and two digital cameras. Expect a grueling day. Bring snacks, cause they don't really feed you anymore. Check the battery life on the laptop while running a DVD. Is it worth it to buy an extra battery?

Also, our pediatrician told us that about 10 percent of kids get MORE hyper on benadryl. I recommend testing Tori's reaction to it BEFORE you get into a metal tube and shut the door for several hours. Really.

Other advice: don't pack the toy she sleeps with in the checked luggage. My luggage was lost and I never got it back and it held just such a treasure (among others).

Good luck!

[Kim]

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Travel all the time and can say with a high degree of certainty (although those bastards at TSA are prone to changing the rules according to their mood of the day!):
-laptops go through the xray machine just fine, usually you will be asked to remove it from your carry on bag though and put it through seperately which is a pain.
-no probs with digitial cameras going through the xray machine. But if you have a regular camera and are concerned about the film being damaged they won't make you put it through, they will do a manual examination of it.

As for travelling with a munchkin, I just recently got back from a trip to Hawaii with my husband and 1 year old son. This consisted of 11 hours of flying time and 1 layover. No, I am not crazy. Yes, it was a bit trying on the nerves but if you are prepared and don't set your expectations too high then you should be fine. I promise! I will admit though that I had the benefit of a glass of wine (OK, 2) halfway through the flight while my two monsters napped.
Here are my own hot tips:
-DVD movies are key, this is a lifesaver not only for the flight but also in the rental car. We bought a contraption that straps the dvd player to the back of the seat in the car and this really came in handy. We got it at best buy and I think it was only about $20, money well spent.
-Benadryl, didn't work for us but if Tori has had it and it makes her sleepy then go for it. Our ped. told us to try it ahead of time to make sure it worked because it has the opposite effect on some kids. Well don't you know, I am one of the lucky ones as it makes my kid bounce off the walls. SOOO glad I found that out before I got on the plane.
-If Tori has a seat on the flight then be sure to order the kids meal ahead of time for her. Rob's chicken nuggets, fresh fruit, and mac/cheese looked a lot better than what we got.
-We also brought a few toys and books. Not sure if I would again as they became projectiles a few times during the flight. Thanks to the nice guy in front of us who just smiled and calmly handed back the hard plastic ring toy that hit him square in the head! I think I would stick to soft stuffed animals in the future. And tearing the pages out of the in flight magazine was a lot of fun that kept him busy for almost 20 minutes anyway.
-Every hour we carried Rob around the plane for his "rounds". This kept him from getting fidgety, he got a chance to socialize and flirt (he's a BIG flirter!) and the other passengers would smile, wave, grab his toes, etc... It actually restored my faith in humanity a little to see people being so nice to us. In my mind I had pictured people being nasty when my energetic son ran up the gangplank but nothing could have been further from the truth.
-Diaper changes in the bathrooms are a challenge. Be sure to have everything ready and in hand (wipe, diaper, cream) when you head in because there is no room to fumble in the diaper bag while you have your kid strapped onto the changing table that is only big enough to fit a newborn. Rob's head was in the sink and legs were up against the wall.
You can do it Cecily! Above all else, have fun and laugh about it - beleive it or not it will be a treasured memory one day even if seems unbearable as you are going through it. At least that's what my therapist keeps telling me.
2 more things:
-Duct tape for the hotel rooms was very useful. I duct taped all the electrical outlets which gave me some piece of mind that I didn't have to have eagle eyes on Rob every second just so he wouldn't electrocute himself.
-Your post mentions you are leaving Philly on Feb 11 and also returning the same day? Is this some sort of time travel scenario

[Darla]

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We first flew with my son when he was 16 months. We then flew again when he was 21 months. Both times I took his favorite snack items and plenty of them. As he got fussy we were able to distract with those. The bananas were the best. Also a couple of new toys worked well. We just got those packs of 3 or 4 Little People toys. I had preopened them so that I could pull one at a time out. He had not seen any of them before so he was happy. He also liked looking out the window. As we were taking off or landing we would point out the cars and see if we could find a truck or tractor. Up high we looked for birds. These little games kept his mind busy.

[Tine]

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I can't help you with most of your questions, but do have some thoughts on two of them....

1. Flying with a baby. First of all, console yourself with the thought that there's no way in h*ll your trip could be worse than the flight from MN to CA we took w/ our 15mo last summer. No way. Whatever happens to you, it will not be that bad. Secondly: The strategy you describe is good. Your best tool, I suspect, will be nursing. Third: You didn't mention how Tori will be seated on the plane. Even though she's still young enough to fly free as a "lap baby," I STRONGLY recommend getting her her own seat. Happy to explain why if you want to e-mail me, but it's too long to post here.

4. The diaper bag. This does not eliminate one of your carry-ons. And don't forget: If Tori's a paying passenger with a seat of her own, she's allowed a certain number of bags too. Not that I recommend overpacking...I'm just pointing out that I doubt you'll exceed your bag limit.

[Bridget]

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If Tori has her own seat put the car seat in it and strap her in - worked with Charlotte from Boston to Paris and back.
What worked the best was the seat back T.V. - she was fascinated and entertained. If there is no seat back TV bring some DVD's and play them on the laptop - bring head phones so you don't have to hear it. It works just like a sedative...

[Celeste]

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Tough age, you are wise to take precautions.

A good $5 toy: travel sized MagnaDoodle. The pen is attached via cord. Some toys are worth taking. Avoid anything with pieces that can be dropped. Buy new ones just for the airplane. I think having one or two toys at your host's house would be good. Pack a nightlight; they are invaluable in dealing with your kid at night in somebody else's house.

Put your basics in the diaper bag. Also, pack a big ziploc bag for dirty laundry. It takes up next to no space and if you need it, you'll be glad you have it. A change of clothing is really good at this age.

Kids like to look at photos, so if the DVDs on the laptop fail to amuse, call up some of your Flicker albums.

I've done 4 hours in a plane with a 6 month old and she slept the whole way...in her car seat. I think hour #5 is going to be where the going gets rough.

Is Tori's car seat too big to take on the plane? Does she ordinarily do well in hers? Only the infant ones (for the most part) are small enough to fit and still let the person in front recline. On Carseatfinder.org (not sure if this is the right link but you can google the name) it says which Britax models can fit on a plane seat. If yours does, consider taking it on the plane since I'm sure you're taking it with you anyhow.

Snacks, water bottle, blankie...You'll get through it.

I'm so sorry about your friend. You two have really big hearts. I hope he doesn't step on them any further.

[Tessy]

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I have flown many a time with small children. I don't take a diaper bag. Instead I use a backpack so I've got my arms free. I take snacks, drinks, some activities, diapers, wipes and a change of clothes. It does count as a carryon, either way.

Do you think if she's drowsy from the benadryl that she'll be in a worse mood? Mine would. You might want to wait and save it for an emergency. Also, make sure you can take it.

[Tessy]

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Oh, and I usually end up checking a suitcase of toys.

[RainbowW]

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1. your plan is as good as it gets, but don't dress her in much or your life will suck going through security.

2. your laptop has to come out as you go through security, into its own little plastic bin and through the x-ray machine. if you don't want to put it through the x-ray machine, the $6/hr monkeys (imo, "people" is too kind a word for the "security" goons they hire) won't let you through.

3. they go through.

4. yes, that's a carry-on bag. are you getting a separate seat for her? if so, she gets a carry-on and a "personal item" as well.

5. leave the toys at home.

6. go naked. certainly more entertaining that way.

7 and 8. i don't live there.

also, be aware of the liquid rules. cuz, you know, terrorists now carry mixable liquid explosives in their shampoo containers that they can ignite with their (permitted) cigarette lighters. and wear shoes that are easy to remove (tori too) cuz those have to go through the fucking x-ray machine too.

i always want to get a little metal doodad to stick on the bottom of my shoe that shows up on an x-ray machine as hand shooting you the middle finger. those x-ray jockeys are about the biggest power-tripping assholes i've ever met outside an aa service meeting.

[Pamala]

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I just wanted to say you might want to stay away from the Benadryl it might make her more hyper. Yes anything you bring with you will go through the x-ray. I don't remember the diaper bag being counted as a carry-on, I think they let that belong to my daughter. I did have to dump the entire thing out for them to see it all. :S (By the way this was in phoenix as well). Kaylee was five months so we had a stroller and the car seat, this is good because if there are extra seats they'll let you strap her into a car seat on the plane! Very nice not having to actually hold her.
Bring toys and some books as well. I wonder if a portable DVD player would be appropriate as well. I know Kaylee can sit for hours watching Wonder Pets.
Also don't worry about other people. Anyone who says they take a plane ride to relax is an idiot and frankly how they can hear the baby is beyond me, it's not exactly the most quiet of experiences.

[Amanda]

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I always gate check my stroller. It gives you a place to put the baby when you need your hands free and has the bonus of being like a shopping cart for all the rest of your crap.

It's not the plane ride that's tough, it's the massive schlep to get everything onto the friggin' plane. You guys have the right ratio, though, (2 parents to one kid), so you'll be just fine!

[Andrea in IN]

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You got some great advice. Wanted to add what we have done in the past for toys when we're staying somewhere for an extended time. We mail a box to our destination! :) Or packed an extra suitcase with her favorite toys. Each paid ticket person gets 2 suitcases, so you could pack Tori's clothes in one and some toys in another.

Do have a suggestion for travelling in the winter where unpredictable storms can hit and hault your flight, causing you to have to sit on the runway for ungawdly hours! ack... sorry I'm digressing... a few extra items you think you would need in case of such happening!

Grand Canyon. OMG - you won't believe how amazing this is when you look out into it. You will feel as small as a grain of sand and wonder just how could there not be something bigger "out there". No picture will ever come close to what actually seeing the Canyon in person will do to you. Oh, and keep Tori close. We were suprised at how unsafe the ledges were where you can overlook the canyon. I mean, I was especting high walls with windows to look out - nope, don't lean too far! LOL Have fun!

[Celia]

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I did extensive amounts of research on traveling before we took our same-age-as-tori son to Cali in oct and New Orleans for the holidays. So, here I go!
CURRENT TSA GUIDELINES:
You can bring whatever medicines, gels, creams that would normally be in your diaper bag (for us, including liquid benadryl, tylenol, diaper cream and a few drinks like pediatric drinks and boxed juice) but have to let the scanner know ahead of time before you send it thru, and put it in a separate box to go thru the scanner. Something along the lines of "I have baby items to declare, formula and medicine."
A diaper bag does NOT count as a carryon, at least for certain airlines. I would check with the airline you're flying to be sure. With Northwest it was a freebie. In terms of her other gear, this depends on whether she has her own seat. With our 19 month old, we did not buy him a seat (not required to until they're 2) but IF WE HAD we would have gotten his two check ons, his two carryons. If you are taking a car seat but not installing it on the plane (be sure it's approved to fly if you are) it WILL COUNT as one of your checked bags. If you install it on the plane it does not count. Same thing with strollers, if you have them check it AT THE PLANE it does NOT count as checked baggage- or a carryon. You pick it up right as you exit the plane. Highly recommended for baby wrangling at the airport.
ALL THAT BEING SAID- I would HIGHLY recommend carrying as LITTLE around the airport as possible. Bite the bullet and buy food for the trip at the airport and take it on the plane to distract her. (Make sure you have good sippy cups or straws so she can drink on landing and taking off so her ears don't hurt.) Flying with a toddler is daunting enough without worrying about keeping track of insane amounts of luggage. Also, bring the biggest stroller that will fit in your rental car and still leave room for the rest of your stuff(and fit thru the xray machine). If you must bring an umbrella stroller, make sure it's one that has the bag holder and that reclines. You'll be using it a lot as a nap space, place to store the diaper bag, place to store purchases. Oh, and I don't know how Tori is with pack n plays but ours was a godsend on our trip. It's a perfect place to stick her when you get somewhere new while you babyproof or when you're somewhere and she's getting out of hand with the climbing. We even use ours outside when at the park as a nap place, toy holder.

This is what I think of off hand. I highly recommend going to your airline's website for more specific info on their policies- and for sure, the size of the plane makes a difference on carryon rules. And whether a ginormo car seat would fit. I'm assuming it's a pretty big plane for 5 hours straight but you can check the stats online and get seat measurements and stats on carryon allowances.

GOOD LUCK HAVE FUN!!!

Celia

[Celia]

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One more thing- do a search of the TSA and your airline websites no more than a week before your trip and print out everything that it says about traveling with children. This gives you a paper backup in case the people at the checkpoint or working from the airline are not familiar with the rules for parents with kids. As we ALL know, that is not nearly as hard to believe as it should be.

Celia

[steph]

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The best thing that I ever saw parents of a baby do on an airplane was bring along a huge Costco-sized container of earplugs, and walk around offering them to the passengers closest to them. Not everyone took them, but everyone was definitely on their side after that, and not a bit annoyed when the baby cried!

[Regina]

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I, too, recommend checking out the ever-fantastic Mightygirl.com for her recent post about traveling with babies.

Check the TSA official web site to be sure, but I have heard that any baby food/powdered formula you might need to take with you for Tori does not count against your quota of liquids/gels, but you will still need to present it to the screening people in a plastic ziploc baggie. Also, even if you don't have enough liquids/gels/whatever to fill up the whole d*** quart-size baggie, say, you have only one tiny tube of hand cream, you still need to have it in a "freedom baggie" or they will ask you to throw it away. gah.

Also, putting your laptop through the X-ray machine won't damage anything. If Charlie is taking any of his old-timey cameras that use, y'know film, especially the antique ones that use antique film, you can ask the security people to do a hand check of these bags. They might balk a little (as doing a hand check is kind of a pain in the ass, and requires them to swipe each and every film canister for explosive powder) but I think it is worth it, and ask for it when I travel with film. If you don't need special film for your film camera, it's more convenient to purchase it once you get to your destination, though.

In and around Phoenix there are some pretty fun things to do. In Phoenix itself, there is a science center/cultural history museum that has some kid-friendly exhibits on Native Americans and possibly insects and stuff like that. I visited there when I was a child, so I remember that there IS a museum, just not what it is called, but I'm sure the phonebook or the Tourist Fliers at your hotels will be able to help you out.

Also, there are some neat national and state parks that have beautiful scenery and fairly easy hikes/walks- I remeber liking Montezuma's Castle and...um... I think Bryce Canon.

I don't know if Tori still uses a stroller, but you can totally take that on the plane with you, too if you have a collapsing one. You don't have to check it with your regular bags, you just give it to the Airplane People before you board, they stow it for you, and then it is waiting for you right when you get off of the plane.

Have an awesome trip! I'm sorry to hear about your friend, and I hope that your efforts to help him stay clean and sober are successful- you guys have the biggest hearts ever.

[Clare]

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Whoops, I accidentally just shut down my comment, and I don't know if it posted or not. Brief recap: flying with Tori will almost definitely be better than you think. The white noise of the plane and the early start may help her nap for a chunk of the flight. Gatecheck the stroller. Small surprise toys will help break up the flight, drawing stuff, Magnadoodle's a good one, snacks will be an event. Diaper bag doesn't count as a carryon. She'll probably be fascinated by the other people and the flight, which'll help hold her interest, and the portable DVD player will be great.
Mostly, people won't be jerks--my toddler son once spilled apple juice on the head of a sleeping passenger, and while he sure wasn't pleased, he accepted my apology and acted like a reasonably pleasant human being.
I wouldn't bother to bring more than the necessary special things and a couple of new little toys for the flight--you don't want to lug half her possessions around.

[Sherry]

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Glad to hear you're getting a security system. All I'll say is I'm with Sarah, and leave it at that.

As for travelling w/Tori, we did a two leg trip last summer with our twins to atlantic Canada. We packed light, some toys, a magnadoodle (can't chuck the pen tethered to the screen!) some snacks, lots of juice and binkies. Be prepared for a in-depth inspection of any liquids. You can bring more because of your child, but they need to check it out. And, you didn't mention, but I'd bring her carseat. It's familiar and comfy and just ask for a little time before boarding to install it.

Most importantly, pack patience. We did, expected the absolute worst, and it turned out a zillion times better than we imagined. When the people got off the plane and saw us waiting for our stroller with two little ones, they said, "Wow! We had no idea there were kids on this flight!"

It'll be fine. Even if it's not, it's still fodder for the blog. Good luck and happy travels!!!

[Heather]

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One thing to consider with little ones is that their ears will need to pop on take off and landing. In fall when we landed in Mexico and little girl screamed for about 45 minutes to an hour all the way through customs/baggage claim because of her ears.

We have traveled a great deal with our little ones and I always made sure to have a bottle or sippy cup ready for them to suck/swallow to pop their ears since gum was not an option. Also, they don't always get that they need to drink in order to help their ears, so I would not give them anything to drink (within reason of course) so they would happily drink. Also I would wait to bring out the drink right when they need it (ie up in the air). If they start drinking when you are on the tarmack (sp?) and then the plane gets delayed while on the ground, not a good situation.

Not a fan of Benadryl so I won't give you the thumbs up on that one. And I'm not saying that sitting here with two angels. My youngest would be considered a hellion.

[akeeyu]

29.

1. Earplanes. I don't think Tori is old enough for them yet, but they're great for adults. You'll still be able to hear Tori, eachother, and the flight attendant, but it eliminates all that earpopping crap.

2. Re the purse being a carryon item: Put your essential purse items (wallet, lipgloss, phone, etc) into your laptop bag. Pack your actual purse (sans important stuff) in your checked bag so that you can use it when you reach your destination. Whoopee! Now you don't have to waste a carryon item on your purse!

3. Stagger your trips through security. Trust me on this, especially if Charlie wears suspenders (or either of you wears clothing or carries items likely to set off a metal detector). Here's why: You have to take your laptop(s) out of the case(s) to be scanned, and if one of you is stopped for additional screening, that means that your laptop(s) will slide down the conveyor belt and wait there...unattended...while you go through additional screening. Here's what you do: Parent less likely to need additional screening goes through line first (leave a gap of 10 to 15 people). Second parent goes through with child. While second parent is dealing with extra screening or juggling child, first parent scoops up and reassembles luggage, laptops, shoes, etc. Sam and I always do this when travelling with ABC so that the first person can be available to gather luggage and supervise her while the second person (always Sam, because he wears suspenders) gets a cheap rub down by the TSA.

4. Do what uniformed military and the pilots do: Go through the metal detector sideways with arms out, like a gingerbread man. This distributes metal (earrings, watches, rings, belts, etc) over a slightly wider area, making you less likely to set off the metal detector in the first place. No, seriously, this works.

[Rebecca Powell]

30.

Airplane - we've flown a couple times with Sam, and he loved flirting with all the people on the plane. He talks to them, shares his toys with them and so on. My advice -- bring lots of snacks and pray for friendly people.

Alb weather -- we're in New Mexico and seems like early spring weather. A light jacket, long sleeves and you're good

Kudos for still trying to help when you're getting burned. Reminds me of, oh, I don't know Christians before we all became jerky and scared.

[Rachael]

31.

The Desert Museum right outside of Tucson (about a 20 minute ride, if I remember right). It's kid and grown up friendly (and fun), sort of an outside zoo. Don't miss the underground area where you can see beavers and otters up close.

http://www.desertmuseum.org/

I moved from Tucson last year. From what I recall about this time of year, long sleeves are good with a light jacket. A Philadelphia sweater probably won't be necessary.

[Carla Hinkle]

32.

Are you sure that Benadryl makes Tori sleepy??? Just checking (it makes some kids more hyper).

1. DVDs are your friend
2. Bring a small bag of small but tempting toys. Some new ones always help.
3. Snacks! Lots of fun, new, maybe usually forbidden snacks. We often do junk food like chips on planes. Dole out the snacks in small amounts over time to keep her occupied.

I have flown with 1 and 2 kids of various ages on short and long (West Coast to Europe) flights. You are already past the worst age (around 1, when they are mobile but don't like TV and have no attention span). Really, a 20 month old can watch a DVD for 15-20 minutes, play with toys for a bit, etc. Especially since there are 2 of you-- you'll be fine!

Just don't expect to be able to read, watch the movie, etc on the plane. You won't.

And yes, building in some run-around time every day is crucial.

Have fun!

[Shara]

33.

I'm going to Tucson next week too! My first trip to the southwest.

I was going to suggest mailing/shipping yourself anything you didn't want to pack. I also second the idea of minimal luggage with you in the airport and on the plane. My friends with kids all seem to use backpacks as their carry ons, as that seems to make kid wrangling easier. And bring yourselves an extra clean t-shirt for the plane in case you're the one that gets spilled on!

Have a great trip!

[Jenn]

34.

I have 3 kids (6,3,1) and we fly about 4-5 times a year. Here are some ideas.

Stuff for the plane:
*New board book or two with hidden pictures behind the flaps. Tori might rip them off, but hey if it buys you 10 minutes of sanity who cares??
*Stacking cups - find them in the baby section of most large stores. For some reason kids love them at any age.
*A couple "new" small toys that you can pull out on the plane.
*Color crayons and stickers with paper. She may do nothing but eat them, but again it will buy you 10 minutes!
*Food - Fruit snacks are perfect for take off and landing to keep her ears clear. Crackers, granola bars, etc. And most important... a sucker to help get you through the last 10 minutes of the flight!
*Try not to show her the button that turns the overhead light on and off. She will become obsessed and you'll never get her to sit down! Same goes for the window however it's not the end of the world if she decides to play with it the whole flight. The problem comes when my kids decide that the window in front and behind them also needs to be opened and closed the whole flight!
* If you think she'll be fine without a nap, you may want to just skip the Benedryl. If you think she'll need a nap, wait to give the benedryl until about nap time. If you give it to her too soon she'll fight off the sleep and it will have worn off too much by the time you need it.

Good luck~

[swissmiss]

35.

Long time lurker delurking with flight advice since we fly trans-Atlantic with small ones semi-regularly.

Yep, your diaper bag counts as a carry on (at least it always has with us) but if Tori has her own seat then she's entitled to her own carry on!

Tori may well have to take off her shoes and put them on the conveyer belt. Yeah, I know. They did it to my 18 month old. They also made him pass through the metal detector ALONE. Yeah. Don't get me started. My number one advice is for you and Charlie to be a few people away from one another in security lines with Tori with whoever is in the back. Far enough apart so that the first parent is DONE with the screening before the parent with Tori hits the detector. That way there is a parent on the other side with hands free and already cleared security who can chase after her if she picks the most inconvenient time in the world to play toddler and bolt. They might not make Tori walk through alone, but then again they might. They did it to me in Denver, and I will never forgive them!

The first time we took a long flight I had one toy or book - half new and exciting and half old stand-bys - for each hour of the flight, which turned out to be far more than he needed but seems to be the rule of thumb among the expat mamas I know.

Try to get her to suck on something during takeoff and landing. Helps with the ear popping.

And you know, if you assume in advance it is going to be the worst most awful horrible stressful thing, then in reality it will seem like a pleasant surprise that it went so well.

We flew from Denver to Frankfurt non-stop with an 18-month old once, so I laugh at your five hours. Laugh, I tell you :-)

[Teri]

36.

Forget toys. Right before you get on the plane, and after security, stop by one of the ubiquitous fast food airport places and get a bunch of those little plastic cups that they put salsa or ketchup into, a handful of plastic spoons, and a couple of big paper cups, some straws, etc. Grab anything else that Tori looks interested in. Once you get on the plane (and even at your destination) you have little cups to stack up, spoons to make the little cups into makeshift drum sets (but very quiet ones), pretend earphones, teeny hats -- you get the idea. Free, fun, takes no room, not there for the security hassle.

If you're taking her seat on the plane with you, practice how you're going to schlep that sucker through 99 miles of airline corridors to the gate. My recommendation #1: bring Tori's stroller. If it's a large one, put as many carry on bags as possible in the under-stroller storage. Use a bungee cord to strap the car seat to the back of the stroller. Put Tori in the stroller, and away you go! If it's a small stroller, use the bungee to strap the car seat upside down and backward onto the stroller seat. This will make a nice flat table area made out of the back of the car seat. Place heavy, awkward carry-on bags on flat area, and sling computer bags and other breakables over the stroller handles. Carry Tori in a sling or just tote her along, and wheel the stroller. Tori can hang on, and the car seat can't!

Option #2, if you have no stroller (I have done this when I'm travelling alone with an under-2): put Tori in a baby sling and carry her. Plan to bring a small, wheeled suitcase as a carryon. Pack all your real carryons (computer, your purse, blah blah) into the suitcase. Strap the car seat upside down onto the back of the suitcase. A diaper bag can be placed on top of the car seat, and strapped on with another bungee or the strength of your iron will and some careful placement of the diaper bag straps around the pull-out suitcase handle. You then carry the baby and pull the suitcase/carseat/diaper bag combo.

Oddball bonus tip: Tori is small enough to bolt while you and Charlie are trying to get your shoes (and hers) off. Get an extra gray bin and sit her down inside it on the table (watched carefully, obviously) while you get your stuff organized and get her shoes off. Many little kids find this highly entertaining, as if they were finally allowed to sit on the checkout belt at the supermarket. It also keeps them where you can see and reach them easily during a stressful and busy couple of minutes.

Just a warning: Tori is now walking, so they may require her to go through the security gate separately from you and Charlie. You may want to stick close together, despite the generally wise advice of the previous poster, so that she can walk from one of you directly into the other's waiting arms. I've seen kids get fairly freaked out.

Have a great time! It will all go well, and you'll survive just fine. DVD movies are the pinnacle of modern airplane survival tools. (Be sure to get earphones that Tori will like and won't tear off immediately.)

Ooh, tip #4: if you're leaving from Philly, plan to be there even earlier than you thought possible, because their security is crazy and long and slow. (Remind me to tell you sometime about the ten hours we spent there after a bomb threat . . .) Pack enough calories for each of you to eat two meals -- my kids like cashews, craisins, cut red peppers, baby carrots, pre-washed grapes, cheddar cubes, etc. You can pack baby food in a separate baggy, but let the security people know and place it on the conveyor belt separately. Carry a couple of empty water bottles with you and fill them at the drinking fountain before you get on the plane. You never know when a waterless four hours on the tarmac could extend your time on the airplane, and you don't want to be on that plane for nine hours without food/drink! All that stuff is pretty compact, and can save your day if it's needed (and the dried stuff can be used on the flight home or for snacking during the trip if you don't need it).

[Lisa]

37.

Your trip sounds great! I love Arizona, although, granted, the most I see of it is from inside the car when we make the 13-14 hour drive between Los Angeles and El Paso, Texas for Christmas. Tucson is pretty chilly in the winter, like El Paso, I think it's at a higher elevation -- it will likely be in the 30s and 40s at night but perhaps warmer during the day. I would just pack layers to be safe -- light sweatshirt, but also a heavy winter coat for night time. When we were in El Paso for Christmas it was downright cold at night (30s) and we needed gloves, scarves, hats, etc.

In terms of flying, you can put your digital camera and laptops through the x ray machine. The weird thing is, they make you take your laptop out of the laptop bag. Not really sure why that is.

In terms of toys, don't kids Tori's age love to play with keys and just everyday objects? Maybe just let her play with various found objects on the road -- she could stack plastic cups at the hotel, etc. Then if you see any toys she would really like, you'll have room in your bags to bring it back for her.

Have fun!

[Chiara]

38.

I just took a trip with my 13 month-old and it actually went way better than I feared. I have lurked on "child-free" sites, so I was paranoid about a plane-full of people hating on my kid for being there and was being vigilant about her intruding on anyone's peace. But everyone we came across was really nice and she got lots of smiles and people wanting to joke/play with her. My husband was with me on the trip up and that was great because we could hand her back and forth and on the way back I got lucky and got a really sweet girl who "loooved babies." I brought had a toy or two, but my kid was obsessed with trying to undo the tray table. I nursed her, but she was so interested in everything around her she wouldn't stay on long. Since Tori is older, you can probably get her interested in looking out the window more - I tried that with limited success while we sat on the ground FOREVER on the way home. She cried some for her ears popping, but it's not as bad as you would think because there's plane noise covering it- not like crying in church or something! When I flew before I had a baby I barely noticed crying - I think that particular complaint gets overblown. Most people seem to have a lot of tolerance for kids if they can tell the parents care about not letting them get obnoxious.
I agree that traipsing through the airport with all your crap can be the worst of it, so consolidate carry-ons as much as possible. Oh, and if you're not bringing a stroller to leave planeside, I highly recommend using a sling or some kind of carrier. Your arms will be in high demand.

[Kate]

39.

Congrats on the upcoming trip! That will be so exciting. I usually wouldn't offer such advice, but you asked. I highly recommend putting Tori in a carseat on the plane. Not for safety, but sanity. Children are used to riding in car seats without getting out of them mid-trip. We have traveled with our children many times by plane and this was a lesson learned the hard way. When merely buckled, they constantly wanted out and were very vocal about it. When in the carseat, it was simply like a long car ride. No one expected to get up and there certainly wasn't any protesting about being in it. I would also stock up on suckers. Not so good dental wise, but worth it! Have a great time.

[michelle]

40.

I lived in Arizona for six years; its a beautiful place. I second the recommendation for the Desert Museum.

Other places in Tucson:

Saguaro National park is a great place to get close to the remarkable saguaro cactus... there is a nice scenic drive in the east half of the park, and plenty of hiking and nature trails. Its a nice place for a picnic.

Madera canyon is another awesome place for a hike, high in the Santa Rita mountains south of Tucson. Its a great place to get out of the heat in summer; in the winter I suppose there could be snow.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coronado/forest/recreation/camping/sites/madera.shtml

San Xavier mission is a beautifully restored and maintained mission that is worth a visit.
http://www.sanxaviermission.org/

In Albuquerque the old part of town is fun to walk around (another nice old mission, too!) and there are some nice restaurants there.

Be sure to eat lots of southwestern Mexican food, and a cheese crisp in Arizona. mmmmm...

One last thing... that hotel in Williams really isn't anywhere near the Grand Canyon. Its at least 60 miles away on a small windy highway, so its not a short trip to get there.
The El Tovar is the real deal, the original 1905 hotel built at the northern terminus of the railway, and perched right on the edge of the canyon. If you can't stay there, (its usually booked ages in advance) at least have a meal in their grand dining room... it has incredible views. I loved having breakfast there and watching the sun rise over the canyon.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Tovar_Hotel

[lb]

41.

I've traveled a fair bit with little kids, and I definitely agree that bringing too many toys is a no-no. Books, yes, definitely bring some books. I usually hit a thrift shop before we go and pick up some new ones. Paper books are lighter than board books, and even though Tori might wreck them, if you've gotten them cheap at a thrift shop you won't care. The only toys I tend to bring are a few little 'guys' of some kind. You can play endless games with a couple of little toy people and a dog and whatever else you find in your hotel room or airplane.

I'd say that a 5 hour flight, with two parents, DVDs, and benadryl, is really not going to be that bad. For me the worst part of a trip like this is all the restaurant-eating. My kids are not particularly seasoned restaurant goers and so that is always a challenge for us. When staying at a hotel, it is nearly always better for us to hit a grocery store and take something back to eat in the room than to try to get through a restaurant meal when we are all tired from a long day.

[Stacey]

42.

Haven't seen this covered. The photo forum sent out a notice on spare batteries. Since I assume you won't trip the "I'm taking POUNDS of spare batteries" threshhold, here's the relevant bits:
Pack your spare batteries like you do shampoo. Tape the exposed contact end with appropriate non-damaging tape, then stick them in a separate pocket from the other battery stuff.

I last flew (with lappy, cameras and stuff) in December and they checked on this.

Also, at both airports, the security had PILES of full-size toothpaste tubes. They're really nuts about confiscating the toothpaste. Pack travel sizes for sure.

[sheilah]

43.

You have already gotten many good airplane tips so I will simply reiterate: Bring a stroller!! It is great to have something with wheels; you can gate-check it and pick it up when you reach your destination; and it is a great place to plant a sleepy toddler. Purse: don't carry one. I travel a lot for work and never carry a purse. I hate to waste my 'personal item' on a simple purse...unless your purse more resembles a totebag (mine does; it is big and can fit under the seat in front of me). I usually carry a bag with wheels that fits above the seat and another large bag that I can carry other needed stuff. As stated earlier, either carry a tiny purse that fits into something else or take out what you absolutely need and pack the purse in your checked luggage.

As for stuff in Tucson. I third the desert museum. It is a great place and a great introduction to Arizona vegetation. We also lived near Sabino Canyon. For two people who love to hike like you and Charlie do, this is a great place. As for Albuquerque; Petroglyph National Monument is something to see; and balloon park. I don't know if there are any special events this time of year, but when we lived there we had hot air balloons flying over us almost every day. If you can, get up to Santa Fe, it is a really beautiful little city.

Take a look at each city's website. I am sure you will find quite a lot to do in both places.

Have fun!

[Rachel]

44.

Flying-YEAH AND TO SEE DAVE-OH TELL HIM HELLO AND SAY THANKS...YADA..YADA..YA KNOW.

OK. iF YOU FEEL OK WITH GIVING some motrin or tylenol-it helps with the ears etc. Also try some natural homeopathy like camomilla. you could even give Tori some chamomile tea mixed with apple juice.

See if you can buy a used dvd player online- I have seen other kids use them and love them.

Bring lots of snacks and books and toys.

You can also use a stroller to wheel her to the gate and then you get a ticket (at the gate) for the stroller and then wheel her to the airplane and leave the stroller and they put it under and when you arrive-it will be waiting there.

The laptop-bring it and they just make you open it up and turn it on and that is about it.

Also wipes for the area on the plane. It can be gross. A change of clothes would be good too. Just in case she gets sick.

Digital camera is the same as computer etc. They just check it to see that it is ok.

Maybe brings some crayons and paper for her to draw.

Layer on the plane because it can be hot and a hot baby is not a happy baby.

And have fun!!

[Shelley]

45.

Whatever you do, Cecily, do not fail to bring a complete change of clothes for Tori in your carry-on. Further, bring a change of shirt for you and for Charlie. (You really don't want me to tell you about the barfapalooza flight on which I learned this the hard way).

If you plan to check your carseat, Eddie Bauer makes an inexpensive carseat cover that rocks.

[Jo-Ann]

46.

Remember you and Charlie took us to the airport when I was pregnant with A. R was about 19 months old. We luckily flew during nap time and he slept. We brought food with us on the flight. His kind of snacky food that helped too. Our flight was about 4 hours. As over the top R is he was amazing on the flight and we were commended on the good baby both ways.

While visiting we scoped out kid things to do and tried to keep his schedule. It was nice while he napped either E or I got to do fun stuff. As for toys my Mom thrift shopped some stuff. It was so cool and he was so excited to have all new toys to play with. I did bring his favorite books and other toys on the plane but very little.

We used the stroller alot on our trip. I brought a dinky one and I was missing a nice stroller. They take it at the gate and it is waiting for you as you walk off the plane. Bring the nice one

I found some playgrounds near where we were staying for bored baby moments. It was a lifesaver. You can always visit with a friend while she climbs!

I hope that helps!

[cass]

47.

We did two trips with the kiddos between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Tips:

- Send the folks you're visiting on a library run - they can pick up a bunch of kids books and have them waiting when you get there.

- Airport security is a pain. They shouldn't make Tori walk through alone, though. You'll want to pre-separate your liquids (anything from hand lotion to diaper cream) and put them into quart-size zip bags. Technically, I think you get one bag per person, but they generally make exceptions for babies. Same with the medicine bottles - Benadryl or whatever. 3 out of our 4 trips we were able to keep the kids water in their sippy cups - the 4th made us dump it. I should have said it was a special juice blend - if you can't get it beyond security and it's for a "baby" you can often get away with it. Laptops come out of the bag and go into a bin. Digital cameras don't. They generally don't make you open them or turn them on.

- For the plane - lots of snacks are a must. A couple of new, small toys. (Target has pairs of "little people" for really cheap.) Coloring? Our kids are big into books, so we made sure to bring a few of their favorites and a few new ones. Also, spare clothes - for her and for you. And for both kids, the descent was worse than takeoff, so save some juice or water or boob for then.

- If you're bringing the car seat on the plan (which, like others, I strongly suggest if possible) see if you can pre-board. Or better, one of you can preboard with the seat while the other does the last bit of Tori-chasing.

Have a great trip!

[cj]

48.

remeber tori has to have her shoes off to go through security. Also you can bring an empty sippy cup through security. She might like little match box cars to play with on the plane...we used those with our 1 1/2 yr old and 4 yr old on the plane...good size and lots of fun to roll on the trays.
Bring the carseat and a compact type stroller (that can fit through the security machine) to the gate...Even if Tori does not have her own seat on the plane you might be able to get a seat for free if there's room on the plane.(ask nicely at the gate if the flight is full) Plus I have heard horror stories about car seats that get checked and end up lost or cracked...then what do you do? She has to be in a car sear in the car at your destination.

[jenn]

49.

Lots of great advice here...one thing that worked for my when flying with toddlers was taking cheap-o sticker books. Look for the kind where the kid is just pasting stickers onto a pre-printed scene, not the ones where the stickers are supposed to go in a precise little space. Kids love stickers, you can get about any TV character she knows, and hey, who needs the book? My cranky babies thought it was HYSTERICAL to paste stickers all over themselves and Mommy.

I lived in Tucson for quite awhile: Desert Museum (lots of live desert-dwelling animals) & the Tucson Reid Park Zoo are great for walking with kids who are not stroller-prone.

Good luck and have fun!!

[Jenny]

50.

I just wanted to say, as someone who flies a lot and doesn't have kids....but understands kids....if Tori isn't so *well behaved* I know it will be stressful for you guys but PLEASE don't feel guilty for the other passengers. Anyone that gives you a hard time is just stupid and most people will understand that there is only so much you can do. I always feel so bad for parents when their kids aren't being perfect angels and people give them dirty looks.

[zenoma]

51.

Remember that most people on the flight "have been there" when traveling with a small child, or at least in some other form of uncomfortable situation with said child. Most will be sympathetic, heck with the others.

Trust your instincts when travelling with Tori, you know her best.

Yes, your laptop and your digital camera can go through the xray. I think it's required unless you pack it in your checked bags which probably isn't a good idea. Plus it's nice to have your laptop on the plane.

Take minimal toys. I speak from experience. She'll be much more fascinated with all her new surroundings...and new things!

You can take a diaper bag, it'll count as her carry on.

I can help much with the itinerary or vacation wear. I was in AZ last JULY at 7mos pregnant! Hell on earth! I'm still trying to forget!

All will be wonderful. Best wishes for Fred.

[bh]

52.

Don't forget about the 2 ounce rule...especially all that lotion-y stuff you might want/need in the diaper bag. All "liquids/gels" (and that includes lip GLOSS I discovered last summer) need to be in no more than a 2 ounce container and all the containers must fit into ONE quart size zip lock plastic bag that they can scan easily in the machine...of course you and Charlie can each have one of those bags so that might help! Keep that bag at the top of your diaper bag so you can remove easily for scanning or they'll make you go back through and remove it and go through the scanning thing again and then people in line behind you will be PISSED OFF!!!!! Above all...have a GREAT trip! Looking forward to pics and stories which you tell so well!!!!!

[KK's Mom]

53.

Lot's of good advice. I reiterate the suggestion to nurse on takeoff and landing if possible, or have her drink from a baby bottle if you don't think it will confuse her. The sucking and swallowing is important to keep her ears from hurting.

I didn't see anyone mention (I don't think) that you will need to fold up your stroller and put it through the xray machine when you get to security. It's a pain, but take your time. I hate it when people are practically running you down to get through security. I just relax and let them worry about missing their planes.

Have a great time, and I'm sure Tori will too!

[Val]

54.

Don't drug Tori unless you have to. Luckily with Benedryl it kicks in quickly. I doubt you will need to worry about it. Make sure she's nursing or drinking from a bottle when you take off and land. This helps with the pressure on her ears. Otherwise, she'll probably cry the inconsolable cry. It hurts, dang it, and she doesn't know how to pop her ears.

The laptop has to be out and in it's own plastic tub - one laptop per tub. You ALL have to take off your shoes, jackets and coats.

Read up on the liquids especially for the diaper bag. I will tell you that lately, two trips in January, I've forgotten to take out my little baggie with my liquids from my purse, and it went through without a problem. I've even sent through a slightly larger lotion and nothing was mentioned. Of course, something might happen while you are gone causing security to tighten up and you are stuck dumping stuff at security.

Also - you have to buy soda, water etc after security so just bring the powder or what not and plan on spending a fortune on water past security. I don't drink from the public water bubbler - no way. You can bring bags with treats and snacks, they just cannot be jel or liquids.

[Anonymous]

55.

Be careful with toys from the dollar store, i.e. lead. Also, it is better for the environment to bring a few from home. Boxes, travel brochures, paper bags and the unplugged hotel phone make great toys!

[Shazamama]

56.

Haven't read all of the posts, so forgive me if I repeat (although I will read it all soon as it will come in handy when we take our to be 14-mnth old to Mexico in a few months.) We travelled with my eldest when she was about that age and it wasn't horrible.

Does she like stickers yet? A sticker book can kill lots of time. Another vote for a small magna doodle. Depends on her personality, but most kids that age just love new stuff - so I would pack some things like a sticker book and magna doodle alogn with some other new odds and ends that she's never seen before and let her discover away.

[kt]

57.

I haven't read the responses, so this might be a duplicate- but benadryl can produce an idiosyncratic reaction of hyperactivity. This is highly variable, even with a single person, so just because it hasn't happened with her before doesn't mean it won't in the future. Have fun!

[Heather AKA Epiphany Alone]

58.

Just plane stuff, never been to either place:

- Gate check the stroller.
- Lots of snacks, particularly ones that take a long time to eat like Cheerios and raisins type gorp.
- A favorite stuffed animal or blanket for sleepy time when you get on that early flight might do the trick for a couple hours worth of nap to start.
- Go for super absorbent diapers. Fewer wet diaper changes, the better.
- Push fluids. Flying is dehydrating.

Lauren was completely fascinated by the emergency evacuation card. We told it to her like a story.

Flash cards, puzzles, coloring books with crayons, and photo albums are nice for planes because there's a lot to look at. Lauren loved Little People, so we bought her a few new ones for the trip.

Oh, I don't know if you said, but if you're renting a car, most car companies will provide a toddler seat if you reserve it.

Regarding security:
Someone wrote you have to boot the laptop. I haven't seen that happen in some time. It does have to be run through the x-ray machine separately though. So do your shoes, and Tori's shoes. Liquids and gels in 3 ounce or less containers in a quart-sized ziplock bag. Alec and I usually have him go through first, then the girls because they'll insist they walk through themselves, and then me. That way they have Daddy to walk to. We also have one of us in charge of stuff and the other in charge of kid.

Have fun, C!

[Jen]

59.

I lived in AZ for two years, so I will just comment on the weather.

Don't pay any attention to the temperatue when you walk out of the airport in Phoenix because the temp in Tucson won't be the same. Tucson is at a higher elevation and is colder. Think mid to late October during the day, and early to mid November at night here in the Northeast. But maybe bring something for warmer weather for the short time you will be in Phoenix.

[carmie]

60.

Having just gone through ten hellacious, AWFUL hours flying with my 22 month old, I only have a couple comments. First, you are very lucky to have Charlie along. Less frazzle on you two since you can trade off. Second, on the ear popping. If Tori has enough teeth to handle it, buy some fruit leather (not roll-ups, too soft) or a Clif bar. I gave my son bits of those on all six of our ascents/descents and he didn't cry about his ears once. Too busy chewing.

I hope your friend can get through this rough patch.

[BookMama]

61.

Whatever you do, do NOT rent a car seat. You never know what you are going to get - it may be expired, damaged, the wrong size for Tori (is she still rear-facing? She could/should be if she's under 33 lbs), may be dirty, or could have even been in an accident.

If you're not getting her a seat on the plane and don't want to lug her Marathon through the airport, I'd recommend purchasing a $45 Cosco Scenera (NOT the overhead shield version) from Walmart or Target - it's smaller and much lighter than the Marathon. Or have someone at your destination purchase the seat and bring it when they pick up you up. Then either bring it home with you or donate it to a women's shelter.

-- Andrea, certified Child Passenger Safety Technician

[Lisa]

62.

A good place for good airplane toys is Cracker Barrel. When flying with our 20 month old, she loved the airplane/lollipop that whirred and lit up. They have lots of little neat things that kids like. We also got a train and tracks that fit on the tray table.

Good luck.

[elayne]

63.

I don't know if someone might have already linked to this (didn't read all the comments), but here is a good link for people doing some first-time air traveling with kids.

http://mightygirl.com/2008/01/24/9-tips-for-quick-airport-security-screening-with-a-baby/

It all seemed pretty common-sense, "yeah, I knew that" to me, but a lot of commentors really appreciated it and exclaimed over it, so maybe I'm just a more seasoned traveler than I give myself credit for. (c: Hope it helps.

Oh, also, I live in El Paso, Texas - not too awful close to where you're going to be, but fairly similar climate. When we say "cold," we mean "dropped down to almost 30 last night!" It's 8 P.M. right now, and the wind has been "bitterly cold" all day - it's 46 degrees. (Yahoo says "46, feels like 36") High today was 66, low tonight expected to be 37 - by my definition, this is damned COLD. So, when desert folk say "cold," keep in mind we might have a slightly different scale than most.

[Eric]

64.

Hi there, Ma'am. I don't have any advice about flying with a baby, as the wee ones flew before 9/11, and as we know, 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING. Anyway, something extremely cool to do is the Titan Missile Museum (http://www.titanmissilemuseum.org), a decommissioned Missile base dug god knows how deep into the Arizona dirt. It's set up just as it was at the height of the cold war, and extremely creepy/cool. It's about 20-30 miles south of Tucson, in Green Valley. And if you get THAT far, you might as well go down to Tubac (http://www.tubacaz.com/), an artists colony, and interesting crap mecca about 20 miles down I-19, Even Lily loved it when she was a baby. And if you're THERE, you might as well go down the road another 5 miles to Tumacacori, home of the Santa Fe Spice Co (http://www.santacruzchili.com/). They have a lot of great spices there, as well as CHILE PASTE. I always make my in-laws send us some for Christmas. And if you make it that far, have lunch at Wisdoms (http://www.wisdomscafe.com/). Home of the giant chickens and some of the best Mexican food I've ever had. And hell, if you get that far, you might as well go down the road another 20 miles to Nogales Mexico. Much fun.

If you're driving to Albuquerque across Rt 10, and up Rt 25, stop at Hatch NM, chile capitol of the world. No lie. Cute little town, and a few good places for lunch, all chile-centric.

Eric and I did that Tucson-Albuquerque run last year, and take it from us, it's murder. So bring lots of drinks and snacks, plenty of tunes, and stop along the way as much as you can. And if you have time coming back, take Rt 40 heading west, and Rt 77 heading south, and take Rt 60 into Tucson. There is NO MORE BEAUTIFUL ROAD IN AMERICA than Rt 60. Especially here:http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&q=new+mexico&cd=3&ll=33.795126,-110.499973&spn=0.034808,0.082054&t=h&z=14&om=0

Anyway.

[Dawn]

65.

I didn't read the rest of the comments, so some of has probably already been said, sorry.

1. You do have to put your laptop through the screener machine. You will have to take them out of the bags and put each computer into one of the gray bins, which you'll also use for jewelry, shoes, etc.

2. Tori will need to walk through the screener on her own. I have found the Philadelphia screening people to be really nice and helpful (odd, I know). My advice would be to be super friendly to them and ask them what they want you to do. They actually held the line back for us the last time we flew, to give us time to get the toddler and all the accompanying crap through. Just ignore the impatient passengers giving you dirty looks!

3. They generally will allow a filled sippy cup, but I asked when I presented my ziploc bag for inspection. I held out the cup and asked if they wanted me to pour it out. They said no.

4. For the plane, I would buy a few new toys (quiet things, like Little People figures, crayons/colored pencils or color wonder markers, paper, coloring books, large beads, etc.) Also, if you can nurse during take off and landing, that would be helpful for the pressure changes.

5. I assume you are bringing a car seat and stroller. If you aren't buying a seat for Tori, gate check both items. Either way, gate check the stroller. There is some thing called a GoGoKidz that you can attach to the car seat, but I've never used one, so I can't say whether that would be worth it or not. I would not recommend renting a car seat at your destination.

6. Your diaper bag will count as a carry on item. So will your laptop, purse, etc. If you aren't buying a seat for Tori, that means you and Charlie get 4 items total (I think, could be wrong about the purse). Pack carefully. Make sure to bring extra clothes for Tori. If you can fit it, stuff an extra shirt for yourself in the bag, just in case.

7. I definitely recommend letting Tori run around in the airport before boarding. There is a little play area in one of the terminals at the airport, but I can't remember which one.

8. Snacks. Bring loads. I recommend ziploc bags. Cheerios, crackers, whatever Tori eats, bring it. If you can, bring special stuff that she doesn't get often or that she hasn't had and definitely will like.

9. Good luck! If it makes you feel better, I've had relatively good experiences flying with my daughter so far.

[Aina]

66.

You've got so much great advice here! I will emphasize only two things: 1) the MAGNADOODLE is a must! You can play games drawing with her, guessing what she's drawing, taking turns with drawing different parts of an animal, etc. 2) new toys, wrapped in several layers of paper.

Also, being a train freak myself, I mourn your decision not to take that train ride! Train love is contagious, and our twins had it early. We've taken several train rides with them, and the great thing about doing that is that you can walk around, and the scenery out the window is like a never-ending DVD! And then there's the dining car! So give it another thought - the freedom of movement on a train is such a contrast to being on a plane or even in a car.

[Regina]

67.

Wear a non-underwire bra. If your bra sets off the metal detector, they have to pat you down and search through ALL of your bags by hand. This happened to me once. I was not travelling with a child, so it was *merely* annoying, invasive and embarassing. However, I imagine it would add much extra difficulty to your day of travelling-with-child if you got detained for the "special check" and Charlie had to wrangle all of the bags and Tori.

Also, velcro shoes or sandals are your friends.

[Christine]

68.

Tucson-wise, we are in the 50s with rain right now, but back up in the 60s tomorrow and 70s by the end of the week. We're comfortable in short sleeves, but I see people wearing winter coats and hats and scarves. I giggle at them.

I have a couple of guest passes to the Children's Museum. It's Tucson, so it's not that...big/great, but you can easily blow a morning there, and there's stuff for her to poke at/climb on, etc. Anyway, you're welcome to the passes if you like. We frown on our family visiting, so we'll never use them.

The zoo is not that big. Pretty standard zoo stuff, but the park it's in is pretty and there's a little train ride that goes around the duck pond. There are three playgrounds and an off leash dog park there, too (I know you're not bringing the dog, but watching dogs amuses Max, anyway).

There are tons of playgrounds around. I can look some up for you if you point me in the general direction where you're staying, or you can certainly do a search on them yourself.

Oh, and technically driving from Phoenix to Tucson is down, not up. Actually, these nutty southwesterners call it east, despite the fact that Tucson is pretty much directly south of Phoenix.

[Beth A.]

69.

I don't think I can add anything to the travel information, but I visited my grandparents in Albuquerque a bunch of times growing up. Albuquerque has a pretty good zoo, and we always enjoyed the natural history museum as well (I know that doesn't seem like the sort of place to take a toddler, but my toddler really liked the Academy of Natural Sciences last spring, so it's worth considering). I've always liked Old Town, but all of those shops full of souvenirs might be a nightmare to take an active toddler into. There's some really good hiking in the mountains.

A website I've always found helpful for finding kid activities is http://www.gocitykids.com. It has a page for Albuquerque.

[Anne]

70.

skimmed the comments and there are some good tips there (I'm taking notes as it looks like we'll be taking a long flight in a few months). We have been taking short inter-island flights regularly for all of K's life and here are some of my tips:

I don't remember if you ended up using a wrap with Tori? If wear her! I use my mei tai and as long as you don't beep as you pass security you don't need to take the kiddo out! Sure helps with all the shoe and laptop wrestling.

Speaking of laptops, I heard a good tip one, put some sort of identifying sticker on it. Can be anything just it's just something to make your laptop look different for all the other laptops out there.

Oh and I read on Ask Moxie – washable pens and baby wipes for the plane – comes right off she claims!

[Siri]

71.

Hey there. GATE CHECK a stroller!! I traveled with my little one and here is what I did: I put him in his infant seat in the stroller. I went through security (a pain no matter what way you do it) and having him in the stoller was a godsend!! I did not purchase a seat for him but there was room on the plane, so I was allowed to bring him on in his carseat. They took the stroller from me at the plane door, and when we got off the plane (in Phoenix!!) they had the stroller waiting there for me. SOO nice as I was alone~also nice to put your bags etc...on the stroller.

I realize that Tori is out of her infant seat but if I recall you have a Britax seat...? Those are approved for airplane travel. If you were thinking of renting a carseat along with your rental car, please let me discourage you from doing so. I am a carseat technitian and you CANNOT trust that the carseat is safe (ie: never been in a crash, does not have current recalls) even though you may be told that it is fine. TAKE you own!!

Toys: I would take "favorites" and supplement as you go along. She will be into all the new places and will probably not even notice that she does not have all of her normal things.

Have a wonderful time!!

[Kristie]

72.

Well, I don't really have any advice for the plane, except to third the advice for a magnadoodle. My 2 1/2 year old loves to scribble and erase the screen and he also loves when the non-driving parent draws pictures of animals or what have you to identify and talk about on the 4 hour car ride to grandma's house.

Also, I'm sure you have a wrangling method y'all are comfortable with, and lots of people have mentioned taking a stroller. I would also suggest if you are comfortable using one, a ring sling will give you an extra blanket, pillow, free hands in a tight space, etc... If Tori needs extra contact and wants to be held more due to all the travel stimulation, it can really give your arms a break.

Also, I swore I'd never "walk" my kid before I actually had kids, but we got a little "backpack" from Target, shaped like a stuffed monkey. Its arms and legs buckle together in front, like the monkey is taking a piggy back ride on my son, and its long tail is actually a leash. We don't walk him like a dog, but having him attached to us in an unfamiliar place lessens our anxiety about him bolting away suddenly but lets him walk and explore a bit. Its been a lifesaver on camping trips and we've gotten nothing but compliments and questions about where to get one when people notice it.

Have a great time!

[Chickenpig]

73.

I have never taken a baby on a flight, but I've been a passenger with lots of them. The best thing you can do is make friends of passengers close to you. People are the most entertaining things of all. I entertained one cranky toddler in front of me for hours just by making faces and putting on an impromptu puppet show. Get drink coupons if you have to!

Also, we went to California when my brother wasn't much older than Tori, and he got a wicked ear infection from the pressure and etc. So, keep an eye out for that. Breastfed kids don't get them as often, so sometimes you miss the signs.

Bring a roll of strong duct tape. We use it to baby proof relatives houses. A piece of tape on kitchen doors or tv cabinets and over electrical outlets works like a charm! It comes right off when you're done and cleans up like a charm.

[Robin]

74.

Get to the airport EARLY. I mean add up all the time you thought it might take to get through everything, then add at least an hour. Also, if you can, have somebody drop you off or take a cab. It was awful hauling all our stuff on to and off of the parking shuttles. Plus, it made us late for check in. Luckily an airline employee actually helped us and we just barely made it through security and on the plane as they we shutting the gates.

If Benadryl works on Tori, I say go for it. If she sleeps the whole flight, it is quite honestly better for her. It doesn't work for Ginny and she was miserable (at 21 months). She didn't watch the dvd's that we brought for her. She had her own seat, but never stayed in it for longer than a minute. She refused to play with the toys we brought for her. And worst of all, she refused to nap. I think she slept about twenty minutes on either flight from VA to CA and back.

Also, since you are taking an early flight, let Tori sleep for as long as possible. If you can get her in to the car with out waking her, even better. No one will care if she is in her pjs. Or let her sleep in sweats the night before.

Also, you might want to reconsider taking both labptops. Just to reduce the amount of stuff you will have to haul around.

Good luck to you. Have a nice trip. We've vowed not to travel with the children again until the littlest is at least three.

[Spacemom]

75.

Lots of assvice!

I travel often with my kids. We use DVDs for them to watch and coloring and books. If Tori loves books, these are great for the times when you can't turn on electronics.

PLEASE PLEASE go to the TSA website. Each airport is different, but right now, the rule is the laptop must go through the X-ray machine, OUT of the bag, in it's OWN plastic tub. Also be aware that the 3-1-1 rule applies to lip[stick or other things in your purse!

Shoes and jackets MUST go through the machine EVEN FOR TORI.
Tori will need to go through the x-ray machine by her self, not holding your hand or you holding her.

Telling a kid that the table at security will fly away if she doesn't hold it down does magic at keeping them still! Really! Make that a game!

Take 1 laptop and an extra battery. Less weight

Instead of a stroller, may I suggest this? Get a luggage dolly (staples has some pretty cheap, about $30) and some bunge cords. Strap her carseat to the dolly. Use that as a stroller in the airport! Then you can either gate check the dolly and use her seat in the plane or put the dolly in the overhead.
Sometimes, you can just use the latch straps to hold the carseat onto the dolly

Good luck!

[Alex]

76.

My son was 8 months when we flew cross-country, so our experience is not exactly relevant to yours, but in terms of taking toys on the plane one major problem for us is that he was already in the drop/fling stage. And once a toy has been dropped/flung on an airplane, it rolls or slides...somewhere, never to be seen again or, worse, barely visible but entirely unreachable.

I don't know what to suggest other than the brand Infantino that makes a number of baby-safe toy-like products that can safely be attached to or worn by babies. However, I'm not sure they make stuff that goes up to Tori's age. Beyond that, the suggestion someone else already made of carrying throw-away airport condiment items that can double as toys seems like a plausible approach to me. Good luck! People do this all the time (there was a family of 2 parents and 4 kids under 6 on the plane in front of us for the first (long) leg of our flight -- I am not making this up -- and they survived, so it is do-able).

[Yasmin]

77.

Heya! I live in Australia Now but am actually from Phoenix! If you like trains be sure to check our the Railroad Park in Scottsdale AZ (just outside of phoenix)n Scottsdale Road and Indian Bend. Great for kids. Plus Scottsdale is honestly one of the most beautiful places on earth, with the best shopping, more gorgeous people, and well it has everything. The park is great! http://www.therailroadpark.com/index1.html

Love it!

[Julie]

78.

Ok - I don't have time to read all the responses but...

IN regard to the benedryl - not all kids are knocked out on it. Give it a test run (before her nap one day) and make sure it doesn't make her hyper.

You can put laptops & digital cameras through the x-ray machine.

Bring one or two favorite toys and a few favorite books. You can always buy more there.

Bring enough diapers & wipes to get you there - buy more at the drug store when you land (bring your coupons).

While you are at the drug store - pick up a container of plug guards so you can (somewhat) childproof your hotel rooms.

I have a friend who works for an alarm company - let me know if you want me to hook you up with him.

Have a great trip!

[kathleen999]

79.

I don't have a lot of time to post, but you MUST go to the train park in Phoenix. It is awesome. I don't have any more info than that, but I will try to look it up for you and post it. It includes a little train that runs all over the park for about 15 minutes and all the kids adore it. Great playground too. It would be an ideal stop to get all of Tori's energy out before you head on down to Phoenix.

Other than that, I would suggest bottles or nursing for takeoff and landing (can't remember if you still nurse) and I would get her new versions of whatever toys she likes best. Our boys are fiends for books, so I always invest in new books just for the flights. And just keep rotating things in front of her. Take her for walks up and down the aisle when it seems like a good time. Go hang with the flight attendants for a while. Bring headphones for the DVD player or you will totally annoy fellow passengers. I was on a flight where the parent gave the kid a video with no headphones and it was HELL.

Anyway, I will try to post again with that park info. I loved it and would have gone again if we had had time.

[Pam]

80.

Gate check the stroller.

Wear clogs or slip on shoes - you'll have to take them off when you go through security (Tori too).

I always bring M&Ms. They are a treat saved for a special occasion. You can name each color or count them as you eat them. It could kill 20 minutes.

My 23 month old son threw up on the plane right after we took off last year. It was so disgusting and the entire plane reeked! People were so nice. They were passing down wipes from every direction.

GOOD LUCK!!!

[Melissa]

81.

"Long time lurker. As a (very) frequent flier, I can assure you that the majority of the awful stories you hear about kids being harassed on flights are pure media hype."

Agree. We've flown with our little one to and from Africa and Europe with few problems save Frankfurt Airport, which sucks immeasurably.

Pre-board, have at least one aisle seat, use the DVD player. If you get the rare asshole flight attendant, don't lose your cool. It will be fine!

[Erin]

82.

Ok, I haven't gone through all the comments before me, so I apologize if I'm repeating things already said.

I give my kids a decongestant before they fly, usually Triaminic. I live in Canada and I can get it the toddler version in the quick dissolve strips (non of those pesky liquid restrictions!) The decongestant keeps their ears from plugging up during ascent and decent and seems to keep them a little dozy. I usually give it about 30 minutes before take off and if the flight is long enough, 30 minutes before landing.

Toys are good. We had some new little things for the flight. They were new, so they were exciting and they were cheap, so I didn't care if they got left on the plane!

I think that a diaper bag counts as carry-on, but if Tori has her own seat, then it can count as one of her carry-ons.

X-ray everything. It's actual 35mm film that doesn't care for x-ray machines, digital doesn't mind.

The last thing I can think of is the last time we flew, our 23 month old at the time, ended up with the aisle seat. It was awful, everytime she dozed off the drink cart came by, bonked her and woke her up. She ended up not napping at all during a 4.5 hour flight. Blech.

[rypa]

83.

So I'm late and don't have time to read all the comments but if no one mentioned Sedona...you must go there. Beautiful, peaceful, spiritual, uplifting. About 2 hours outside of North Tucson, I believe. If you're headed to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, it'll be on your way. Well worth a visit.

[kathleen999]

84.

Okay, here is the info on the train park I promised you:

http://www.therailroadpark.com/index1.html

It's in Scottsdale, which is not too far away from the airport...less than an hour's drive, I would guess. If you want to go there to let Tori get all tired out before you drive to Tucson, make sure you get directions through google or whatever, because I bet a lot of people don't know about this park. My parents have lived in Phoenix since I was in high school, and I had never heard of it before this past Christmas.

Have a great time! You should have lovely weather this time of year.

[Debby]

85.

Cecily,

The Grand Canyon RR hotel in Williams is actually way away from the canyon. Like an hour drive?

I don't think they run steam in the winter. My brother was bummed about that; he's primarily a steam railfan.

And as far as the canyon itself? Magnificant. It's different in different lights; morning and evening are best. But definitely put Tori on a harnass/leash. Seriously.

Have fun. Wear layers. I'll be looking forward to the photos!

Debby

[Lynnette]

86.

Hello. I just returned Sunday from a trip to Albuquerque with my 2 year old daughter. A few comments:
1. You'll only need a sweater/sweatshirt during the day, but jackets for night.
2. Things to do -- my toddler LOVED the aquarium and Explora (a kind of science museum for kids). The zoo there is also really good if the weather is mild for you. Oh, and also if you have good weather, go to the botanical gardens. They have a whole kids area that is a lot of fun.
3. As for traveling with a laptop, you'll have to take it out of the bag and send it through the xray. It doesn't harm it. I've also sent my camera through with no problem. Beware -- security will be your biggest pain in the butt with having to take off your shoes, her shoes, all jackets, put the stroller through xray, take out the lap top, take out all milk/liquids, etc.
4. I just discovered boxes of milk that don't require refrigeration. You get them in the health food section by the soy milk, and I carried a bunch in case of delays, and needed them all.
5. As for toys, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Bring some cheap small toys for the diaper bag, and all of the new environments will be plenty entertainment for her.
6. I dose up my kid with Tylenol about 10 minutes before boarding so that it helps with her ears. I was told not to do Benadryl unless you've tried it before, as some kids get all hyped up on the stuff. And I'm sure you know to have her drink on take off and landing. Hide the milk until those times!

If you want to see pics of our Albuquerque trip, they are posted on my website at http://www.rebellin.net. Have fun!

[DANA]

87.

CANDY! I recommend m&m's and a lollypop. The lollypop helps with the ears.

Don't forget a change of clothes for the plane, just in case! and the plastic bag to put them in.

Have the best trip. I travelled with my three all the time, usually alone. You will get through it and have the BEST time!

[Rachel]

88.

Each month i fly from baltimore, md to salt lake city, ut to pick up my niece pursuant to custody arrangement. She is now 3 1/2 and we've been doing this for a year. Every month. Twice. In the span of 6 days. Once to pick her up and once to take her home. 5 hours on the plane, plus an hour or so in the airport on each end. and she's never slept on the flight. ever. not even once. (as for the benedryl -- i say use it if you're confident it will get you what you want, otherwise don't.)

Here's what i've come up with.

1. Shoes -- wear something for you and her which can be taken off and put on easily. in other words -- slip on shoes. She will have to take them off to go through security (as will you). as nice as people can be, you can feel the tension behind you when you start to take too long at security.

2. Coats/sweatshirts -- try not to wear too many for the same reasons stated above. You will have to take them off at security. This is one of the harder parts of the trip and the goal is to make it as painless as possible.

3. Liquids -- here is the TSA rule -- no liquid/gel/cream in a container bigger than 3 oz. This only applies to stuff going with you on the plane, not in your luggage. most drugstores have the sizes available now. but, if you bring a big tube of rash creme, they'll confiscate it. all those things have to be in one plastic baggie that also has to go through security in a bin (with the dvd player/camera/laptop/shoes/coats).

4. Backpack -- i agree with other comments. use something that leaves you totally hands free.

5. Food/drink -- i get mixed messages on this depending on who is manning security. Some say empty sippy cups only. some say she can have a full sippy cup but you can't have a drink. some say unopened drinks are ok. i pack an empty sippy cup and then buy some juice on the other side of security (and a huge diet coke for me!). i pack packaged foods (not something packed by me in a baggie) like those little bags of goldfish or pretzels or animal crackers. you will not get a meal on the plane. on my cross-country flight we get a box with raisins (ok), oreos (i allow it due to the circumstances), pepper crackers and soft cheese (not loved by the child). so, having other food is key. you can also buy stuff in the airport, but it can be expensive.

6. toys -- a dvd player is AMAZING if you have a kid who likes movies. you will also have to put it through security in the bin (with the laptops/camera/baggie/shoes/coats). something without a lot of pieces. i have books, sewing cards, dvd, crayons, a small book of family pics to look through, two small dolls (fist size) for playing.

7. wipes -- mandatory, necessary.

8. my friends and i differ on this next point. i like to board as early as possible (pre-board) so we can get settled, etc. i have friends who like to get on the plane last so the child can be on the plane for the shortest time possible and use some energy in the gate area. probably depends on the temperment/age of the child.

9. if she is a lap child your boarding pass must say "infant-in-arms" or you cannot board with her. and you must have her birth certificate. if she has her own seat, then no birth certificate necessary. (i guess if you pay for her seat they don't care if you kidnapped her!)

All in all, it's tiring, but not bad. if you can get her used to it, your life will be that much better in terns of your family's ability to travel in the future. i've seen those moms/dads who are freaked out about the whole thing and their kids are usually freaked out too. Relax. Realize it won't be perfect. Have a great trip!

[Craphead]

89.

If you have time while you are in the Phoenix area, another place that I am sure Charlie would love is the Arizona Railway Museum (http://www.azrymuseum.org/). They are only open on the weekends from 12-4, though. We took our kids (4 and 2) and they had a blast because you can climb in the cab of the old steam engine, walk through reconstructed passenger cars, etc. There's also a really nice play area near the museum. OH and I third or fourth the Train Park in Scottsdale. They have the train rides ($2 for adults, free for kids under 3) and carousel for Tori, as well as two different playgrounds, and a train museum in some old passenger cars for Charlie. Beware the ice cream shop, though! :)

As for the weather, it's unpredictable. It's been freezing at night here in Phoenix, but the daytime temp ranges from chilly (50's) to warm (70's). Williams is much higher elevation, so should be similar to Philly weather right now.

Williams is a great little town! There's a nice coffee shop called the Java Cycle Cafe. It's at 326 West Route 66 (you can walk to it from the train station/hotel). It has good coffee and a great atmosphere, as well as free wifi. I'm not sure if you guys are coffee drinkers or not, but it's just a cool place and a local business to support.

[Jenn]

90.

I know this is late, and it sounds like you have everything already planned out, but I just thought I'd add my two cents, as I just yesterday got back from flying with my 23-month-old to spend a week with my parents.

Best advice I can give : don't stress! Treat it like fun, and Tori will pick up on that and not be freaked.

I brought Benadryl along, just in case, but ended up not needing it at all. Here are the things I brought that worked on the plane, and also at the grandparents house -- all small, light, cheap, and portable!
1) I will second (third, and fourth, and whatever) the travel size Magna-Doodle!
2) Go to the dollar store, or cost-plus world market, or wherever, and get those little wind-up toys -- they were endlessly captivating!
3) Find something with a slot (one of our wind-up toys came in an egg that had a slot), and give her a handful of coins. I swear, this kept Squeaker busy for about an hour! (Of course, if she is still at the stage of putting everything in her mouth, you might want to skip this one....)
4) One of those nesting dolls, like the Russian ones....those are terrific.
5) A deck of cards. I actually bought a deck of tarot cards in really bright colors, and Squeaker loved playing with those too -- take them out of the box, put them in the box, take them out of the box, put them in the box.
6) At most craft stores you can buy a big bag of random buttons, which she may enjoy sorting through, and even stringing if her manual dexterity is good enough, or she'll let you help her. The same note about if she is still putting things in her mouth applies, of course!

Someone else mentioned bringing empty sippie cups. I always do this -- I know the TSA website says that you can bring a full one if traveling with a child, but I never trust the reps to actually know their own rules, and it's easy enough to buy a bottle of water or whatnot inside.

Squeaker got lollipops at take-off and landing. It takes her almost 45 minutes to eat one of the things, and she's so thrilled by them it keeps her quiet too. Also kept her sucking on something to help her ears!

The worst part was going through security, not because it was horrible, just because there was so much to keep track of and do, and everyone is waiting behind you. As others have mentioned, just make sure you wear things that are easily removable! Shoes, jackets, sweaters, and hats will all have to come off and go through the x-ray machine, and laptops will have to come out of bags and go through in bins, so just make sure everything is easily accessible.

Oh, and one more thing : the weight limit for each checked suitcase is 50 pounds, and they charge a FORTUNE if your bag is over that. So make sure you weigh your checked bags before you go to the airport!

[Lawmommy]

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I have no travel tips, but, if you are meat eaters, you really have to eat at a place called Pinnacle Peak in Tucson. It's very touristy, but, my god. The steaks - oy, the steaks. I lived in Tucson from 94 to 95, and, even 13 years later, my mouth is watering a little bit as I type this...
http://www.pinnaclepeaktucson.com/

[Shelley]

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Little finger puppets or even regular puppets are good too. You can put on a show and she can also use them. Easy to stuff in the carry on too.